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Post by joanieb on Oct 26, 2016 9:02:35 GMT -5
Anyone get their's yet? Mine came yesterday. Very similar to CI and Cook's Country in format. More down to earth stuff than I expected--foolproof pie crust (add a cornstarch slurry and sour cream), stop searing meat article, scrambling eggs with oil for more fluff, and some recipes a little more exotic/ethnic. I think I'm sold for now. The auto renewal for the discounted subscription bothers me tho....
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Post by joanieb on Oct 26, 2016 9:21:05 GMT -5
Yes, indeed, cookieee, they sure do! The pie crust piece is 3 pages, several articles/recipes are 2, there are a few 1-pagers. This issue is slightly shorter than a CI. That Chris K is wordy!
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Post by mcgee on Oct 26, 2016 11:07:49 GMT -5
I signed up for it but we moved and my magazine forwarding expires on November 7th so hope it comes before then. I'm anxious to see it. I'm with you both on auto-renewal - can't stand it.
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Post by cafelatte on Oct 26, 2016 12:31:46 GMT -5
I got mine in the mail today. I don't think I will subscribe only because the last few magazines I still receive I rarely open these days.
As for auto renewals, you usually can go on the sites and remove it from you subscription. I've done that in the past with magazines.
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Post by Brenda on Oct 30, 2016 14:40:36 GMT -5
Thanks for bring this up, Joanie. I signed up for the free copy as a result.  Also, when I was at market yesterday I saw the mag in the mag rack.
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Post by cafelatte on Nov 2, 2016 11:47:04 GMT -5
I am tossing all my Rachael Ray non-stick pans. The article on page 26 "Toss Out Your Nonstick Skillet" makes sense. It says "Carbon-steel pans are the cheap, durable, naturally nonstick workhorses of restaurant chefs. So why aren't we using them?" Does anyone know why we should NOT use them before I toss all my non-stick pans? I am not an expert, nor have I read the article yet, but my understanding is that if the teflon pan is scratched and peeling, then of course it could be a danger. I'm not in a panic about such things, so I wouldn't throw them out if they are in good shape. That's just me and maybe others have more info for you.
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Post by PattiA on Nov 4, 2016 17:21:14 GMT -5
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Post by applecrisp1 on Nov 8, 2016 17:55:16 GMT -5
I am tossing all my Rachael Ray non-stick pans. The article on page 26 "Toss Out Your Nonstick Skillet" makes sense. It says "Carbon-steel pans are the cheap, durable, naturally nonstick workhorses of restaurant chefs. So why aren't we using them?" Does anyone know why we should NOT use them before I toss all my non-stick pans? Hi cafelatte, thanks, I meant why we should NOT use the carbon-steel pans.
Cookieee, There has been talk for years about the safety of nonstick pans --- and like everything, differing opinions. Kind of like plastic and BPA (and not all plastic has BPA if one trying to avoid just that). Most nonstick pans (maybe all) are now PFOA free (one of the chemicals that got lots of attention). I remember watching an old ATK, and like many,, they said there many still think certainly a place for traditional nonstick pan. I'm not a fan of traditional nonstick pans because of the chemicals in general, how they all seem to scratch/lose some nonstick and have to typically replace every so often (I hate the waste of that), but I do use them sometimes. Now back to carbon steel. I've never heard of them until a few weeks back when Wallycat mentioned them in a thread , and referred to an ATK article (or maybe the show). I was asking about replacing some pans and was looking for some ideas, and preferred a pan made in US if possible, not from China etc. Anyway...... I did some looking online and was intrigued, I might try one but from what I've read, they are not the same as regular nonstick (or ceramic --- mixed reviews on ceramic by many) at least in terms of use/care. Carbon steel pans need care just like my good ol' Lodge cast iron -- it needs to needs to be seasoned before using (I guess some kind preseasoned like cast iron, but lots of vids, including this one, mentioned that some do not --- they show a seasoning process using salt, oil and potatoes which was certainly unique, at least to me). ATK says not to use soap etc. just like many say (but not all) for cast iron. Some might not be into the care --- have to make sure it is completely dry after use, many put back on the heat for a bit, and then a quick swipe of oil before storing. That egg might not be sliding around as easily perhaps from the get go. And I've read many that never seemed to get the pan as nonstick as talked about. Plus, I'm guessing has the same issues then if cooking real acidic food like tomato sauce etc, that it could strip off some of the hard earned seasoning. And obviously it can't go in the dishwasher. I read somewhere about the oil/seasoning on carbon steel and cast iron going rancid if you don't use the pan often -- I need to look into that more. Here's a video from Americas Test Kitchen show (it is not as in depth as the article -- I haven't read). linkI ended up picking up a new 8 inch nonstick for the few times I make eggs, but still use my Lodge pan for most things. I do have my eye on a Le Creuset skillet though I so agree as mentioned, I just tossed a nonstick that was super scratched. I wasn't using since not in great shape and just taking space. If you try one, would love a review. PS -- I' haven't seen his new mag, and like mentioned, I read about the bad press, the lawsuit etc. I will check out if I see a copy.
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Post by sallyt on Nov 11, 2016 13:42:02 GMT -5
PattiA, I was just coming to post the same thing. Those articles are so interesting -
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Post by cafelatte on Nov 11, 2016 14:33:50 GMT -5
I am tossing all my Rachael Ray non-stick pans. The article on page 26 "Toss Out Your Nonstick Skillet" makes sense. It says "Carbon-steel pans are the cheap, durable, naturally nonstick workhorses of restaurant chefs. So why aren't we using them?" Does anyone know why we should NOT use them before I toss all my non-stick pans? Hi cafelatte, thanks, I meant why we should NOT use the carbon-steel pans.
Ooops, I misread. I haven't been back to this thread since then. I'm not running out and buying new pans at the moment.
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Post by wallycat on Nov 11, 2016 18:33:40 GMT -5
First...can you post that prune cake recipe!!!??!
The only caveat about the carbon steel pans is that you MUST keep them seasoned. They are like a wok. If you don't keep them seasoned, they will rust--and faster (I believe) than a cast iron pan. They are also not light. Certainly not as heavy as cast iron, but not as light as teflon coated pans. I am chomping at the bit to get one but I use a TON of cast iron already. I do have a Le Creuset teflon coated 8" pan that I use exclusively for scrambled eggs. It looks as pristine as the 20 years ago I got it.
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Post by applecrisp1 on Nov 12, 2016 17:22:31 GMT -5
Wallycat, After you mentioned it a few weeks back, I looked it up online, was kind of curious, and next thing I knew, it was in my shopping cart. So it is your fault. Ha. Just kidding -- thanks for mentioning, I've never heard of it before. But like so often, I have seen it mentioned on line, in catalogs etc since then. It does meet some of my my preferences --- no chemical coating, can easily get pans not made in China etc.
I recently tossed a few nonstick pans, and I never got close to 20 years! Impressive indeed. I did get a new one that I'm being super careful with.
I'm curious to try it out the carbon steel pans and see what I think, some rave, some don't. But I don't think I really need it, and then I have to store it ---oh, how a small kitchen keeps me in check. I will stick with my good old Lodge cast iron (Lodge now offers carbon steel pans too, in addition to those popular French brands and....) for now. For now......
Thx for the info.
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Post by wallycat on Nov 12, 2016 22:08:28 GMT -5
Cookieee, I don't mind waiting any amount of time....not planning to make it soon anyway. Maybe it will pop up on the web somewhere, being reviewed. I haven't tried to look. And you know Kimball recycles his recipes. It will show up!
Is this it? Magazine Recipes School Radio About Join Milk Street Bowtie Logo You don't have to be a professional baker to make this deliciously gooey cake. Chocolate, Prune and Rum Cake
1 hr 20 min 30 min active
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We were smitten with Claire Ptak’s chocolate, prune and whiskey cake, but when we got the recipe back to Milk Street we knew we needed to make adjustments. Most home bakers aren’t as skilled as Ptak, and we wanted a cake people would fall in love with on the first try – as we did when we tasted her version. Her cake is deliciously gooey at the center, and we wanted to keep that. A ratio of 3:1 chocolate to butter – as well as 8 ounces of chopped pitted prunes – got us the results we wanted. We tried a variety of chocolates and preferred bar chocolates with 60 to 70 percent cacao (especially the Ghirardelli and Guittard brands). Chocolate chips contain stabilizers that can change the cake’s texture; it’s best to avoid them. Ptak uses almond flour, not an uncommon ingredient in flourless chocolate cakes such as this, but certainly not a common ingredient in American homes. In an effort to streamline, we reworked the cake a bit to leave it out and found the results just as good. At first we questioned the need to whip the egg yolks and whites separately, but we discovered it made a big difference. Whipping the yolks helps maintain the emulsion of chocolate and butter; skipping that step produced an unpleasantly dense cake. And of course by now we understood the value of under-whipping the egg whites and just barely mixing them into the batter. Ptak originally made this cake with Armagnac, but later switched to whiskey. We couldn’t easily find the former, and the latter – while delicious once the cake was cooled – tasted harsh when the cake was warm (and this cake begs to be eaten warm). We found dark rum tasted delicious warm or cooled and better complemented the molasses. 12
Servings Tip
Don’t over-bake this cake. Don’t be alarmed if the center still jiggles a bit and yields to gentle pressure; the cake will continue to set after it comes out of the oven. 1 hr 20 min
30 min active Ingredients
9 tablespoons salted butter (1 tablespoon softened) 8ounces pitted prunes (about 1½ cups), finely chopped ⅓cup dark rum 1tablespoon molasses 12ounces bittersweet chocolate, finely chopped 6large eggs, separated ⅓cup plus ¼ cup white sugar ½teaspoon kosher salt
Choc Tarte 01 Directions
01 Heat the oven to 325°F with a rack in the middle position. Coat the bottom and sides of a 9-inch springform pan evenly with the tablespoon of softened butter. In a 2-cup liquid measuring cup, combine the prunes, rum and molasses. Microwave until the rum is bubbling, 45 to 60 seconds. Let sit for 15 minutes, stirring occasionally. See It 02 In a medium saucepan over medium heat, melt the remaining 8 tablespoons of butter. Remove from the heat and immediately add the chocolate, then whisk until melted and completely smooth. In a large bowl, whisk together the egg yolks and ⅓ cup of sugar until pale and glossy, about 30 seconds. Slowly add the melted chocolate mixture and continue whisking until smooth. Stir in the prune mixture. See It 03 Using a stand mixer with a whisk attachment, whip the egg whites and salt on medium-high speed until light and foamy, about 1 minute. With the mixer running, slowly sprinkle in the remaining ¼ cup of sugar and continue to whip until the whites are thick and glossy and hold soft peaks, about 1 minute. See It 04 Whisk ⅓ of the whipped egg whites into the chocolate mixture to lighten it. Gently fold in the remaining whites with a rubber spatula until the batter is marbled but not fully blended. See It 05 Pour the batter into the prepared pan. If needed, smooth the top with a spatula. Bake until the edges of the cake are firm and cracked, 35 to 40 minutes. The center will be just set, yet soft to the touch. Cool the cake in the pan on a wire rack for at least 1 hour before serving (the cake will settle and sink as it cools).
Tip: Don’t over-bake this cake. Don’t be alarmed if the center still jiggles a bit and yields to gentle pressure; the cake will continue to set after it comes out of the oven.
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Post by mcgee on Nov 14, 2016 16:32:49 GMT -5
My issue never came and I found the email confirmation so I know I ordered it. Oh well....
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