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Post by Ilene on Jul 24, 2023 7:43:09 GMT -5
Wondering if there are any people who ferment veggies? With summer here, there's so much to try!
I do cabbage (sauerkraut), small cucumbers (sour and half-sour pickles) and tomatoes (sour tomatoes).
You can ferment almost any veggie. The fermentation preserves them for months when stored in fridge. Very good source of probiotics.
Would enjoy hearing from anyone into doing this.
Ilene
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Post by Catbatty on Jul 24, 2023 15:17:08 GMT -5
Ilene: I would love to hear more. Any recipes for them? Never heard of fermenting tomatoes! THANKS 
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Post by karenw on Jul 24, 2023 18:44:41 GMT -5
Ilene-I ferment veggies. In the summer I do cucumbers from my garden (only full sours in this house!) and at the end of the summer it is green tomatoes. All year long I do my own kimchi. I have done saurkraut as well but that was only out of necessity (my husband brought home a HUGE cabbage from a co-worker). It did turn out good and I may do it again sometime but for now I really like kimchi. I have a variety of fermentation containers in addition to standard bell jars. The kimchi recipe I most recently tried which may be my new favorite was from Eric Kim. He also has a recipe for a caramelized kimchi stuffed baked potato I plan on making using using his kimchi recipe.
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Post by traildoggie on Jul 24, 2023 22:51:49 GMT -5
I know this is a stretch of a question. I picked up a container of kimchi a dozen times and never bought any. can you describe the taste? I hate saurkraut. I dont like pickles in general much but I have a recipe for lightly pickled red onions I like a lot. they're vinegary and only slightly sweet and are a good substitute for raw onions that are too strong. . I don't like dill or sweet pickles. I do like hot spicy things.
so I KNOW its an impossible question but does kimchi resemble any of these things? what do you eat or serve it with? TIA if you can answer any of my questions.
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Post by karenw on Jul 25, 2023 18:23:34 GMT -5
Traildoggie-Kimchi is more in the hot spicy category although you can get/make milder varieties. It is made with gochugaru which are spicy Korean red chili flakes. Some varieties may have a hint of sweetness but nothing overwhelming or that noticeable and definetely no dill!! If you live near a T.J.'s, give theirs a try to see if you like it or not. That way you can always return it if you don't like it. I started making my own since I am shrimp allergic and many brands are made with dried shrimp. I use fish sauce and/or miso in my recipe to replace the shrimp. There are still some brands I will buy occasionally but I have to read the ingredients carefully. And many brands make a variety with different levels of heat and some vegan so those are always safe for me.
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Post by wallycat on Jul 26, 2023 10:44:47 GMT -5
I have made authentic pickles (brine not vinegar based) and I've made Kim Chi. I love all things pickled and soured but lean towards soured as a preferred taste. To me, the two are very different. Taildoggie, I'd love to see your pickled red onion recipe.
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Post by Ilene on Jul 26, 2023 18:19:25 GMT -5
Catbatty, Fermentation is a method of food preservation. Bacteria and yeast break down food components, which give them unique and desirable tastes, and many additional health properties. It's not hard at all, and you don't need a lot of specialized equipment. For foods, it's basically a salt solution and vegetables. Most veggies can be fermented. There are some very good websites and books that explain the process and give lots of recipes with the specific ratios of water to salt and veggies. Some good websites: This one got me started on fermentation. Background, recipes, suggested equipment and more www.healthline.com/nutrition/fermentation#foodswww.heartfoundation.org.nz/about-us/news/blogs/fermented-foods-the-latest-trendBooks: Fermented Vegetables Kirsten K Shockey & Christopher Shockey I'll be happy to help with any questions or suggestions! Ilene
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Post by Ilene on Jul 26, 2023 18:30:49 GMT -5
Hi Karen!
Thanks for answering my post!
Kimchi! YES! I had a recipe a long time ago, but I tried it again recently and it didn't taste as good as I remembered. I looked up Eric Kim and see he has several recipes. Could you possibly post the one you like? I really want to do Kimchi again.
Right now I have a batch of dilled sour tomatoes fermenting. I've already done some pickles...my son likes the half-sours and I like the half and full sours.
I mostly use the wide-mouth Ball jars and I have a few Fido jars. I have one crock that I use for Kimchi. What do you use as toppers for the pickles and tomatoes? I started with Pickle Pebbles and liked them, but they're a little pricey (about $21 for 4) but they do last. I've started using the 4oz Ball jars and like them. They take up more room in the jar than the Pickle Pebbles but they are way cheaper.
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Post by Ilene on Jul 26, 2023 18:40:46 GMT -5
Hi Traildoggie,
Kimchi is made with Nappa cabbage and is wonderfully salty and spicy. If you've gone to a Korean restaurant and had a lot of little bowls of fermented veggies, you most likely had cabbage kimchi.
I would probably buy a small jar of store-bought kimchi so you'll know what to expect. The benefit of making your own gives you control over what gets put in it and the level of spice.
You can serve it with most anything, or just have a bowl by itself.
Ilene
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Post by karenw on Jul 27, 2023 18:31:10 GMT -5
Ilene-This is Eric Kim's (mother's) kimchi recipe: www.npr.org/2022/03/31/1090020490/the-one-recipe-youll-need-to-make-your-first-batch-of-kimchiI do not use the green plum syrup. I use a plum syrup substitute recipe: 1 Tbsp water + 1 tsp apple cider vinegar + 1/2 tsp sugar to substitute 4 tsp Maesil Syrup I also do not use the salted fermented shrimp due to allergy but you can swap with fish sauce, miso, and/or anchovy paste. I also use pickle pebbles and those work well. I also have spring loaded bell jar fermentation lids but I tend to use those more for storing in the fridge than the actual fermentation but they do work for both. My favorite vessel for actual fermentation is my Crazy Korean Kitchen kimchi/fermentation containers. I have 2 different sizes, they are not that expensive, and I can use it for pickles, kraut, kimchi, etc.... as well as just general storage. I think E-Jen also makes a similar container. I got mine on Amazon. Another very good kimchi recipe is on Bon Appetit. If you search, it is called "Clean out the Fridge Kimchi"
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Post by Ilene on Jul 28, 2023 6:19:34 GMT -5
Karen,
Thanks for the recipes. Now it's definitely time to try Kimchi!
Ilene
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Post by childjulia on Aug 2, 2023 3:29:01 GMT -5
This is an amazing. Everyone at my house will love it
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Post by traildoggie on Aug 3, 2023 21:38:50 GMT -5
thanks for answering my question. I dont get to TJ's very often( maybe once a yr?) so might be a long time before I can try it. maybe Ill give a try to whatever I see in the regular grocery. if its more hot spicy I might well like it. Ive thought about trying a korean restaurant instead but it never seems to happen. I add red pepper flakes to a lot of things.
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Post by traildoggie on Aug 3, 2023 21:41:00 GMT -5
wally cat its from skinnytaste.com Ill try to stick in a link but it should be very easy to find its extremely easy to make. they are not so strong so as to overwhelm other food. www.skinnytaste.com/pickled-red-onions/#recipe I made these because DH doesnt like raw onions and thought he might find these less "hot". he didnt like these either, but I did.
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Post by wallycat on Aug 4, 2023 10:51:35 GMT -5
Thanks, Traildoggie!
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Post by traildoggie on Aug 4, 2023 11:22:46 GMT -5
DH constantly pics out even tiny pieces of raw onion so I was hoping this would tame the flavor enough so he would eat them. Im not a fan of much raw onion either. he still wont eat it, but I love these. enjoy.
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Post by wallycat on Aug 4, 2023 12:29:51 GMT -5
My DH doesn't like picked anything and he won't eat raw onions. I eat raw onions like apples. LOVE IT!
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Post by traildoggie on Aug 6, 2023 16:47:49 GMT -5
not a fan of raw onions unless very small pieces in a salad, then I'm ok with a few. t too many and I start flipping them to the side. they're better if soaked in ice water for a while. Eat like apples? wallycat. you are a fire breathing dragon! I like hot spicy food but raw onions are unpleasant for me. even walla wallas.
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Post by traildoggie on Aug 27, 2023 21:48:18 GMT -5
Finally bought a package of kimchi. was hoping to like it. No, not even close. it was fairly hot/spicy but its the cabbage flavor I dont like. I eat cabbage in some things but not many. I knew DH would not like it and he would not even taste it. I was fine with the heat level but way too cabbage-y for me. so thanks for the suggestions but not for me.
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