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Post by neptune on Apr 28, 2018 4:02:13 GMT -5
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Post by wallycat on Apr 28, 2018 9:59:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure I'd say alarming, but disappointing. Sounds like if you want strawberries, the organic still have "adult lives" as organic which has to help. Sad that this isn't well known. Thanks for posting the link.
As frustrating to organic farmers who live near conventional farms and have winds carry the icky stuff onto their organic produce.
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Post by emma on Apr 28, 2018 10:35:20 GMT -5
As frustrating to organic farmers who live near conventional farms and have winds carry the icky stuff onto their organic produce. Our local organic apple orchard and apiary owner once sadly told me, 100% organic is nearly impossible, because of nature itself - weather extremes, animals, bird droppings, drought, wind shifts etc. (Their apples weren't picture perfect, but their farm produced the best cider ever!) |
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Post by neptune on Apr 30, 2018 0:50:48 GMT -5
Sounds like if you want strawberries, the organic still have "adult lives" as organic which has to help. No doubt it helps, but is worth the extra charge? I haven't checked recently, but I heard they cost twice as much as conventional. That's the worst part—the concealment. No problem—I hope more people learn about this. That would not be fun. I think if you really want quality strawberries, the best solutions are: 1) Buy some from a local farmer who tells you exactly how they're grown. 2) Grow them yourself. I've heard it takes a year for plants to produce, though, but I don't know if that's true. My mom always told me she could never get them to grow.  |
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Post by neptune on Apr 30, 2018 0:56:40 GMT -5
Our local organic apple orchard and apiary owner once sadly told me, 100% organic is nearly impossible, because of nature itself - weather extremes, animals, bird droppings, drought, wind shifts etc. (Their apples weren't picture perfect, but their farm produced the best cider ever!) That makes sense. There's no such thing as "perfect" organic, but there's certainly "high quality" organic. Not all organic is high quality, though. You just have to learn which brands you can reasonably trust. If it's from China, forget it—just buy conventional.  I wonder if other countries have the same process for "organic" strawberries? I think some frozen organic strawberries come from Turkey. |
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Post by wallycat on Apr 30, 2018 10:31:13 GMT -5
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Post by erin elizabeth on Apr 30, 2018 12:45:16 GMT -5
My dad grows strawberries on his Ohio Ecological Food and Farm Association-certified organic farm. He raises them organically and he has to buy the starts from an organic producer in order to be compliant with his certification. He is small-scale. I think these articles point to the fact that you should be as close to the people who raise your food as possible. I wonder how locally-grown, non-organic, non-factory-scale berries measure for these pesticides. And, neptune, they do take a two-year start and then have a defined span before you have to start over. I am not sure how many years of berries you get after that one-year no-pick time, but I know you cannot just keep the same plants forever. Also, you use the runners from the old plants to start the new bed so there isn't the one-year wait again if you plan ahead. Anyway, that's my personal experience.
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Post by neptune on May 1, 2018 23:34:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the article, wallycat. In many ways, I think it just adds to our confusion.  |
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Post by neptune on May 1, 2018 23:40:09 GMT -5
My dad grows strawberries on his Ohio Ecological Food and Farm Association-certified organic farm. He raises them organically and he has to buy the starts from an organic producer in order to be compliant with his certification. He is small-scale. I think these articles point to the fact that you should be as close to the people who raise your food as possible. I wonder how locally-grown, non-organic, non-factory-scale berries measure for these pesticides. And, neptune, they do take a two-year start and then have a defined span before you have to start over. I am not sure how many years of berries you get after that one-year no-pick time, but I know you cannot just keep the same plants forever. Also, you use the runners from the old plants to start the new bed so there isn't the one-year wait again if you plan ahead. Anyway, that's my personal experience. Thanks for the helpful info, erin elizabeth. That's cool your dad grows organic strawberries. I wish I could buy some of his. Yes, you do want to be as close to the people who raise your food as possible. It would be interesting to know the pesticide levels for locally grown berries. It sounds like you've grown some strawberries yourself. Here are some wild strawberry plants I've decided to order: www.prairiemoon.com/fragaria-virginiana-wild-strawberry-prairie-moon-nursery.html |
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